NS Cliches: Rebooted

by **Nationalist Northumbria** » Sat Mar 19, 2022 5:22 am

Not-just-NS cliche: people doing this 'popcorn' RP thing. It never fails to make me cringe.

by **Perikuresu** » Sat Mar 19, 2022 5:32 am

Nationalist Northumbria wrote:Not-just-NS cliche: people doing this 'popcorn' RP thing. It never fails to make me cringe.

*loudly crunches on popcorn*

by **UIJ** » Sat Mar 19, 2022 12:22 pm

Arpasia wrote:There were a few new accounts hanging out in F7, I've seen 4-5 in Say a Random Word.

One of the dumbest threads hands down
still have no clue how it hasn’t died

Nationalist Northumbria wrote:Not-just-NS cliche: people doing this 'popcorn' RP thing. It never fails to make me cringe.

It is rather cringe innit
Always found it rather annoying

by **Gandoor** » Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:46 pm

This isn't a cliché but for some reason I just remembered there was a nation a few years back who seriously tried to proselytize for Christianity in a goddamn F&NI thread

by **Perikuresu** » Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:12 pm

UIJ wrote:
Arpasia wrote:There were a few new accounts hanging out in F7, I've seen 4-5 in Say a Random Word.

One of the dumbest threads hands down
still have no clue how it hasn’t died

My man the "your relationship with the AN" thread is just filled with "Neutral" and "I don't know you"

At least you have variety with Random Words

by **Arpasia** » Sun Mar 20, 2022 12:00 am

Cliché: People taking NS stats too seriously and using them to do Roleplaying stuff.

NS stats executed by M67 rifle.

by **Perikuresu** » Sun Mar 20, 2022 12:01 am

Arpasia wrote:Cliché: People taking NS stats too seriously and using them to do Roleplaying stuff.

NS stats executed by M67 rifle.

Cliche: People killing NS Stats rather than just saying it's non-canon

by **Arpasia** » Sun Mar 20, 2022 12:43 am

Perikuresu wrote:
Arpasia wrote:Cliché: People taking NS stats too seriously and using them to do Roleplaying stuff.

NS stats executed by M67 rifle.

Cliche: People killing NS Stats rather than just saying it's non-canon

Because NS Stats are too absurd and disproportionate!

by **Valentine Z** » Sun Mar 20, 2022 1:01 am

Arpasia wrote:
Perikuresu wrote:Cliche: People killing NS Stats rather than just saying it's non-canon

Because NS Stats are too absurd and disproportionate!

Gasp, heresy!

by **Gandoor** » Sun Mar 20, 2022 1:19 am

Arpasia wrote:
Perikuresu wrote:Cliche: People killing NS Stats rather than just saying it's non-canon

Because NS Stats are too absurd and disproportionate!

Not everyone plays this game realistically.

The only time I get annoyed at the whole NS stats vs non-NS stats thing is when people deliberately use NS stats for people who say they don't use them. That always just reeks of 'I don't care about how much effort you've put into developing your nation' to me.

by **Perikuresu** » Sun Mar 20, 2022 1:43 am

Gandoor wrote:
Arpasia wrote:That always just reeks of 'I don't care about how much effort you've put into developing your nation' to me.

Oh hey, why do I sense deja vu? Oh yeah, the previous conversations but I'm frankly tired of THAT conversation so I'll go back to NS Stats.

Why can't we just simply say it ain't canon? Why must spit on it, poison it and it's family, shoot them in the heart, chop them to little pieces whilst they're still conscious in front of each other, give it to your dead dog to eat, mix it with ethanol and natural gas, light it on fire in the pits of hell, put it's ashes in a cannon and blast it into hell, all whilst it's recorded and uploaded onto Pornhub?

by **Gandoor** » Sun Mar 20, 2022 1:45 am

Because the average NS user is probably like 16 years old and thinks they're being 'funny' by 'murdering' NS stats.

by **Foehn Paramilitary Regions** » Sun Mar 20, 2022 1:56 am

Gandoor wrote:The only time I get annoyed at the whole NS stats vs non-NS stats thing is when people deliberately use NS stats for people who say they don't use them. That always just reeks of 'I don't care about how much effort you've put into developing your nation' to me.

It's things like this why a minimum standard of effort has been developed for some Forum 7 threads (mostly the ones that do require you to have read the effort that people have put into developing their projects).

Gandoor wrote:Because the average NS user is probably like 16 years old and thinks they're being 'funny' by 'murdering' NS stats.

Meh, in my case it's more of a "adding an IC tint to the act of making NS stats non-canon" thing ~~(if one were to overthink things, it could be considered a way of conveying that things are so arbitrary that even non-canon elements are executed via a firing squad)~~. Admittedly, those who do it have become a bit of a minority within F7.

by **Valentine Z** » Sun Mar 20, 2022 2:11 am

I like a mix of both for myself, of course. ♥ I personally use Stats canonically for the most parts, with some modified bits here and there.

For the rest of you lot, I will default to your factbooks as the primary source of worldbuilding, and will only fallback to stats if 1) the thread itself says "Based on AN's stats" or 2) I really can't find anything about you - on-site factbook or otherwise.

~~That and gold flexing. Hey, if that's what makes me happy now and then.~~

by **Arpasia** » Sun Mar 20, 2022 7:12 am

UIJ wrote:
Arpasia wrote:There were a few new accounts hanging out in F7, I've seen 4-5 in Say a Random Word.

One of the dumbest threads hands down
still have no clue how it hasn’t died

Hey you can't say that! my user made that thread!

by **Gandoor** » Sun Mar 20, 2022 9:14 am

Actually a genuine gripe I have with NS stats is how the only economic systems your nation can have per stats are:
- Generic free-market capitalist one
- Centrally-planned 'socialist' one where the government owns and runs everything

I get that NationStates isn't an economic simulator and said economic simulation is very simple, but it's still hella annoying either way.

Like if you have the socialism policy, there's an issue you can get where one of the options is specifically about getting rid of the centrally planned economy and replacing it with a democratic economy where the workers are the ones who are actually in control and if you choose that option in that issue you get the effect line of 'workers have seized control of the economy' and the devolution policy.

But your nation will still have the socialism policy with the whole 'the government owns and runs all industry in a centrally-planned economy' descriptor because even though you literally chose the option to get rid of central planning, there is no alternative policy for if your nation is socialist but doesn't have a centrally-planned economy. There's no 'worker control' policy for the economy or whatever.

by **Valentine Z** » Sun Mar 20, 2022 9:38 am

To add on to the wonky nature of NS Stats, here's a little fun fact, using the data from Feb 2021. Here are number of nations with Socialism policy, categorized by their, well, WA category:

That is, there exists nations that are classified by the WA / NS Stats as Capitalist Paradises (and its other derivatives) and there you go... they have Socialism in their policy!

Probably a cliche/trope of Gameplay-Storyline Segregation, or Immediate Self-Contradiction.

by **Nationalist Northumbria** » Sun Mar 20, 2022 9:40 am

NS cliche: people not posting losses.

by **South Reinkalistan** » Sun Mar 20, 2022 9:46 am

NS stats :|

by **Valentine Z** » Sun Mar 20, 2022 9:49 am

South Reinkalistan wrote:NS stats :|

Hey, they are cool, okay? Don't make the cat paw you too.

Mew.

by **South Reinkalistan** » Sun Mar 20, 2022 11:52 am

Valentine Z wrote:
South Reinkalistan wrote:NS stats :|

Hey, they are cool, okay? Don't make the cat paw you too.

Mew.

They're only cool when I have high rankings!

by **UIJ** » Sun Mar 20, 2022 12:23 pm

Arpasia wrote:
UIJ wrote:One of the dumbest threads hands down
still have no clue how it hasn’t died

Hey you can't say that! my user made that thread!

tell them to make a better thread

by **Gandoor** » Sun Mar 20, 2022 4:22 pm

i love the tagspam thread so much, you'd think people would know not to post 'tag' in threads by now

by **Arpasia** » Sun Mar 20, 2022 8:34 pm

South Reinkalistan wrote:NS stats :|

Texkentuck uses them to flex their Stat-based muscles, or in simpler terms: Force to Convey Power. which is a disgrace to the International Community.

by **Valentine Z** » Sun Mar 20, 2022 8:37 pm

South Reinkalistan wrote:
Valentine Z wrote:Hey, they are cool, okay? Don't make the cat paw you too.

Mew.

They're only cool when I have high rankings!

Amen to that!

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